Brand New Day: The Heroic Trio vs. Madame Web
Koji and Andrew host the podcast You Gotta Love It with a “brand new day” theme, pairing spider/superhero films: hidden gem The Heroic Trio (1993, dir. Johnny To) and “Lovett” Madame Web (2024, dir. S.J. Clarkson). They summarize The Heroic Trio’s plot—babies stolen for an underworld master, three heroines (Michelle Yeoh, Anita Mui, Maggie Cheung) ultimately team up—and praise its Hong Kong wire-work action, genre-blending tone, cult history, and wild finale, while noting jarring child deaths and tonal whiplash. They compare origin-story exposition versus being dropped into a world, then discuss Madame Web’s muddled “pre-origin” premise, weak characterization, product placement, and unrealized potential around fate vs. choice and precognition, citing poor reviews but noting some visual moments, Adam Scott’s performance, and Koji’s daughter liking the future-vision and costumes. They end with “love it or leave it” prompts and tease future episodes (Coyote vs. Acme, Space Jam: A New Legacy, Hundreds of Beavers, 65).
00:00 Welcome to the Pod
01:11 Theme and Picks
01:50 Heroic Trio Setup
04:23 First Impressions
06:36 Cast and Context
09:56 Dynamite and Tone
14:59 Origins vs Drop In
18:46 Action Craft Talk
22:23 Cult Status and Finale
25:29 Shelf Respect Segment
28:04 Weekly Recs
30:37 Madame Web Roast
33:12 Plot Breakdown Begins
35:22 Dunking Then Praise
37:26 Fate Versus Choice
39:04 Fixing The Action
40:49 Origin Story Gaps
42:38 Responsibility Gives Power
43:42 Pepsi And Branding
46:28 Spider Verse Nods
48:54 Kid Review Notes
49:32 Style And Soundtrack
52:29 Budget Box Office
54:37 Critic Or Commenter
56:07 Scores And Wrap Up
59:20 Love It Or Leave It
01:01:28 Final Thoughts And Next